[quote="CMYK46":tomd50h4][quote="Andrew1":tomd50h4]Literally recently began to understand 3D programs and applications. Immediately start to learn useful blog about it. But still not enough practice. I would like to know where to start and what to focus on learning. Thanks.[/quote:tomd50h4]
Do what any good beginner does: Find an artist you like and imitate them.[/quote:tomd50h4]
You mean freelance?
[quote="magicalfruittuts":2nqjiga7]I suggest that Pxleyes send out a mass email to all members in the email database. In case they are not aware that the Photoshop and Photography contests are currently active.
I've noticed in the last few months that most Photoshop contests usually only have 4 or 5 contestants. Some who may make multiple entries. Also, usually only around 35 people are voting.
When Pxleyes "closed" around 5 years ago there were a large number of talented and creative active members. At that time I checked the forums for about 6 months to see if Pxleyes would re-open - finally, I moved on.
Four years later, I visited the site to find an effect I used on a SBS and was surprised that the Photoshop and Photography contests had resumed. If someone would have sent me an email that the contests were then active, I would have come back much sooner. It makes me wonder if there are others out there who would come back if they knew. We could use more talent and competition to improve the experience.[/quote:2nqjiga7]I understand your frustration, but having spoken with members who chose not to return, all I can say is they had valid reasons. You just can't put toothpaste back in the tube.
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[quote="still26":3ieislpo]Thank you, Angel, for your insightful comments.
So, what kind of suggestions can we give to Rob to make this site a tad more attractive?[/quote:3ieislpo]
I don't think it's up to Rob or any other single person to make the site more attractive.
It already has plenty of attractions with photo and photoshop contests and plenty of tutorials and things to read in the forums and it's all free. The only thing missing is meaningful communication. That would need all members to make an effort to communicate. However, no amount of persuasion will make anyone communicate about anything if they are not interested in doing it.
In my opinion people will enter contest and comment on entries only if they feel like it regardless of how many 'attractions' there might be on the site.
You and I both know from a previous site we were on that had plenty of reward systems for various things that those systems don't generate any meaningful interaction anyway. Most people don't want to be treated like donkeys which need carrots dangled in front of them to make them do anything. People just do what they like doing.
I suggest you simply accept the site as it is and keep doing the good work of encouraging people and setting a good example. Eventually others might start following your example and also have a go at critiquing entries and being helpful with tips. If not, at least you are still doing what you enjoy.
I think the novelty of photoshop and photo contests is just wearing off with the public in general. There seemed to be quite a lot of those type of sites with a lot of participation on the net in the past but over the years I noticed quite a few closed down due to lack of interest.
As to the topic of more involvement by members....well, you can lead a horse to water...but.... [/quote:3lysyyh5]
...try getting him to float.[/quote:3lysyyh5]
Hi CMYK, Apparently it can be done.
BTW, what happened to our shadow and perspective police? Haven't heard much from "him" lately. Is no one breaking shadow and perspective laws? Can we pat ourselves on the back for doing good?
and...... Does anyone know if Spaceranger is still around? He has been quiet for ages too.[/quote:3lysyyh5]
Plenty of people still break the shadow & perspective rules. I get tired of repeating myself, so I only comment on the more egregious entries.
Spaceranger has had computer problems.
[quote="still26":1vv78ym3]Thank you....success! YAY. [/quote:1vv78ym3]
Funny, when I type your name in the search bar, all your stuff comes up...you didn't use the search bar in the forum, did you? That's different.
[quote="BWR":ukli462o][quote="CMYK46":ukli462o][quote="BWR":ukli462o]I know this is old but there is a much much much much better way. I use "Session Manager" in Firefox. What this does is is saves sessions. Sometimes I will have 50, 100, or even more tabs open while searching for images for a Photoshop. I can save this entire session as lets say "Dog Photoshop" or w/e. Sometimes I change plans midstream and decide to make something else. I can then make ""Dog Photoshop2" session and I still have the original session in case I wanna go back.[/quote:ukli462o]
What's Firefox? [/quote:ukli462o]
What browser do you use?[/quote:ukli462o]
I used to use Firefox and Safari years ago. Firefox got worse and then Chrome came along. I understand Firefox is pretty good now, but since I'm using Chrome & Safari, don't see the need for a third browser. Besides, I was just kidding.
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[quote="BWR":1jsw28a4][quote="skyangel":1jsw28a4]I am wondering if premade downloaded actions are allowed to be used in contests?
I have personally never used them because I thought they were someone elses work and it would be better to do the effect ourselves from scratch, even if we make our own actions from the steps to use in future contests. At least that way, people reading sbs will learn how to achieve the same effect.
Just curious because if we are allowed to use them, I have a few I would most likely use in future contests without needing to provide an sbs as to how they are done.[/quote:1jsw28a4]
That is so horrible if someone uses a pre-made action. That's sorta like "Let me Photoshop this for you BWR. Then you can click a button and say you did it."[/quote:1jsw28a4]
I agree with you BWR but I understand what Rob is saying. Very few make an SBS to explain how they actually made their entries so if they use a premade action and dont make an SBS, there is no way to prove it. Not everyone will admit to buying a premade action but personally I would mark an entry lower if they admit to using a premade action and higher if they actually showed in the sbs how they achieved the end result which is achieved by that action. Most effects are not that hard to do and there are plenty of you tube tutorials to teach how to do them. I just think using purchased premade actions is a lazy way out. That's just my opinion.
[quote="robvdn":38spi9zj]1. At http://www.pxleyes.com/courses/guide/guide.pdf page 9 you find more info on the mods.
- Update on this guide: Friiskiwi and Tordoni are no mods anymore.
2. Mods do not get assigned contests anymore, all photomods can mod all photo entries and all photoshop mods all photoshop entries.
- Advantage of this is that entries get modded faster.
3. If there's doubts or disagreements about a warning and or removal this is discussed between the mods.
4. http://www.pxleyes.com/other/the-eye/eye03.pdf page 74-79 you can find members asking questions to mods. It's explains a lot about how mods work.
Any questions? Just ask![/quote:38spi9zj]
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[quote="solkee":27wfc39g]It would be a pity to see you leave but you must do what you feel best.
I very rarely vote in the 3D section due to time constraints and my lack of knowledge in the subject.
The results is up to the members, they vote the way they think is correct. The mods have nothing at all to do with the final outcome. The mods don't remove votes unless it is a blatant attempt to manipulate the score (eg. voting 1-10% on all entries in which that person has an entry). If the mods removed votes which they disagreed with then the mods would be manipulating the scores and that is not allowed and certainly not done.
We have all had entries that have finished lower than what we believe they should have, unfortunately the rest of the members didn't agree with us. Maybe it wasn't the rest of the members that got it wrong, maybe it was our belief in where the entry should have finished that was wrong. What I am saying is don't cry fowl just because you see the results differently. We have many members from very different cultures, art styles, education and so on which view things very differently. Therefore they will also vote very differently.
[color=#FF0040:27wfc39g][color=#FF0040][b:27wfc39g]To sum up I wouldn't pay $10 for some of the $1000000 artworks in museums, does that mean they are crap? It just means that they are not to my taste and if they were in a contest here at pxleyes I would vote them low.[/b:27wfc39g][/color:27wfc39g][/color][/quote:27wfc39g]
I know this is an old thread but I have just read it and I agree with what I highlighted in red from the above quote.
I think that in the end, art is very subject and no matter how valuable someone else might think it is, our own personal taste is what makes the final judgement of what is personally appreciated and of value to us personally.
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Welcome aboard, this is really a fun place and in the process of having fun one can learn a lot from some of the titans on this site. Please do not be shy to critique works, what makes it work for you and what doesn't, that way we can all grow in our craft. All the best.
Yes, for sure to comment on each entry would be time consuming and oftentimes not appreciated all that much "what do YOU know?" or "I know all that" kinda attitude. BUT, for some a bit of a suggestion on how to improve is appreciated. I welcome all suggestions for improvement, even if I don't agree with the reviewer.
I am here to learn from other artists as well. Please don't be shy to give a critique when you see the posts, it is the ony way we can learn.
Hoping to grow together in our craft.
[quote="CMYK46":33yq02jv]Okay, here goes. Even though this subject has been brought up previously, as Spaceranger mentioned, (He has posted older links) I'd like to thank Irse for bringing it up again. It's important for ALL members, not just newbies. And as mentioned, the following criteria are absolutely essential to consider when evaluating an entry:
• Masking issues - edges left around component sources or sections that should have been masked and weren't.
• Shadows - absence of or inappropriate direction or strength.
• Lighting\Levels - mismatched levels or light sources of components.
• Blending techniques & Filters - Inappropriate use of such that it overwhelms or becomes the focal point of the piece.
I'd like to add some thoughts to these. Masking: edges that are too sharp, jagged, or pixelated = lower vote.
Shadows: I'd add wrong opacity to that list.
Lighting/Levels: Light sources are usually simple to determine when choosing images. Many members pay little or no attention to this when making a composite. Lower vote.
Other things I take into consideration when voting, in no particular order: SBS. A step-by-step guide isn't mandatory, but I agree with Spaceranger that a good one is the best way to demonstrate the work that went into your entry. Looking at a good SBS over the years has certainly helped sharpen my skills, and I usually try to include at least a rudimentary one in my entries where I think it might be useful.
Composition: A good idea expressed in a poor composition won't get a lot of points from me.
Mood: Whether by color, lighting, good choice of subject matter, or all three, a well done moody piece can be impressive.
Humor: Tasteful humor is a joy to see. Crude, not so much.
Use of source: Obviously a creative use of the source will get a better vote than just slapping on some filters or overlaying other images. And here we come to CBR. Entries that are Chopped Beyond Recognition. Using Warp and Liquify to create something that bears no visible relation to the source gets a WOW vote from lots of members. I just scratch my head. To me it's being clever, not necessarily creative, and is a questionable use of the source because an identical recreation could be made with some other source. Some people love it, others share my opinion.
Lastly, and purely subjective, how does the entry make me feel? Is it the same old tired stuff I've seen a million times? Does it make me think? Does it make me say "Wow, I wish I had thought of that?" Does it uplift or disgust me? Is it so good I go back to view it just for fun?
I may have overlooked a few things, but to me all these things are important and I vote accordingly.[/quote:33yq02jv]
I agree with pretty much everything in this post. Humor to me is about as important and any other "emotion" or "feel" that I may get from the chop. Of course if I look at an image and it makes me laugh, I may give it more points, but the same can be said if it makes me "feel" whatever. I do tend to give extra for an SBS. To me that shows effort and the amount of effort someone used to make their chop is important to me. Heck, even a nice description on how it was made is a good thing to me.
I never judge by looking at an image (particularly just the low-res) and giving it a score. I look at all their sources and see what they actually did. At first glance something may look good but when you look at the sources used and they just copy/pasted a few things here and there, then the "initial impression score" I may have had in my head, goes lower. Or it may go higher if the opposite occurs. I mostly spend several minutes scoring each one. And like you, I use pretty much use all of your criteria while doing so. I even look at the Hi-res for errors such as masking etc. I can see that that hub-cap (or w/e) the artist used as an eye is blended in well or did they just copy and paste it there and do nothing to blend it?
Also I would like to say that I do appreciate all of your critique in the Chop contests. I've actually learned from your critique so keep up the good work.
I may not have my terms right here but mismatch in "temperature" is a pet peeve of mine. Someone may take a warm image and put it into an "cooler" scene and make no effort to adjust it. It gives the chop that "I'm just gonna stick this thing here and hope for the best" look "but take no effort to match it up". Sometimes those adjustments are hard to do, but sometimes they are simple. I'm making up numbers here but that could turn a 50 into a 60 or w/e if everything just looks like it belongs together.
Also perspective. I've seen some really good chops but the external sources just don't look like they belong there. Heck, sometime using that same eternal and moving it back or forward may cure that problem, sometimes they should not even have tried to use that external.
[b:33yq02jv]CMYK46 "Is it the same old tired stuff I've seen a million times?"[/b:33yq02jv]
As of right now, IMO, I think I may disagree with this. I have not been into this for very long so I have not seen things a million times. One of my first contest entries was a dragon made from a frog. Someone in the comments said something like "We have already seen millions of dragons". I haven't. That was MY dragon damnit haha. I poured my heart and soul into that dragon, not eating or sleeping to make the best dragon I could, so the fact that there may have been 10 million billion trillion dragons made before, to me, should be of no consequence.