LOL...my brain just doesn't work the way Illustrator works. I hate it..

CMYK46 wrote:LOL...my brain just doesn't work the way Illustrator works. I hate it..

Same here.. and all tutorials on AI (well, those that I did read/watch ) go like this:
with this tool we will make this and that; then we do smth really wierd to the thing... but they just don't tell HOW

Thanks Anna for the tips, could be very nice if you can post an AI tutorial...

annabat, thak you so much!!
<does like Mr Burns with the hands and the grin> Eeexcellent! now I know whom to harass *cough* *cough* look up to with admiration when it comes to help with Illustrator

Yep, I do know the theory behind the "marketing" - the reason I wanted to actually do smth myself in AI instead of making sketches on a piece of paper with crayons for little kiddies To no avail for now But I am not giving up! What makes me angry only makes me stronger lol

Exactly, logos must be in vector, even if they are only to web. Imagine situation, when you make great logo for web in PS. Few days later your client says that he need this logo also to be print on billbord to advertise his website. Then you must do this from begining... Illustrator is a very powerfull tool, maybe not so easy at start, but at the end you discover that some things are much easier to do in Ai Also when I look at your logos, they are where easy to do in Ai, your last version shouldn't take more then a half hour to complete

i absolutelly agree with illustrator gang!
this is one powerful prog and there are even some clever tricks to retouch pictures in chops together both in photoshop and illustrator.

love the last handful of posts as i'm a newb who's teching myself PS (started like a lot of people because of photog hobby). as i'm learning, i'm finding friends that want me to do logos etc and i've only played in PS so i guess i need to get more acquainted with Illustrator if i'm going to produce something for them that is more flexible. thanks everyone!

anyone have suggestions for appropriate sizing if you're starting a logo from scratch? keeping in mind the things annabat suggested. i know it probably "depends" on the media it will be going to, but is there kind of a safe starting point?

denacho wrote:anyone have suggestions for appropriate sizing if you're starting a logo from scratch? keeping in mind the things annabat suggested. i know it probably "depends" on the media it will be going to, but is there kind of a safe starting point?

keep in mind the specifics of the product you need a logo for.. (read product is item/ company/service/ whatever)

keep in mind your public.. are they a certain kind of ppl? young? old?for example for a toystore you might want to use bright and happy colors.. for a company that sells gravestones you may want to tune a bit down on the happyness lvl XD

what are you going to be using the logo for... a tv commerical? in the local sportclubmagazine as a sponsor? namecards? on the shopwindow?

all these things are important.. if you want a logo thats gonna be printed on the product you usualy dont look for somethign too complex.. it has to be simple.. catchy, somethign ppl can remember easely... and recognise right away as being for that product.

when you haev an idea then create several versions.. play with the colors and try get some help, advice and maybe opinion from ppl that you think are worth while to listen to...

I like the second one, too. It's cleaner.